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> On the other hand I am trying hard to remember anything famous created by any LLM.

That's because the credit is taken by the person running the AI, and every problem is blamed on the AI. LLMs don't have rights.



Do you have any evidence that an LLM created something massive, but the person using it received all the praise?


Hey now, someone engineered a prompt. Credit where it's due! Subscription renews on the first.


Maybe not autonomously (that would be very close to economic AGI).

But I don't think the big companies are lying about how much of their code is being written by AI. I think back of the napkin math will show the economic value of the output is already some definition of massive. And those companies are 100% taking the credit (and the money).

Also, almost by definition, every incentive is aligned for people in charge to deny this.

I hate to make this analogy but I think it's absurd to think "successful" slaveowners would defer the credit to their slaves. You can see where this would fall apart.


I will ask again because you have not give us an answer.

Do you have any evidence that an LLM created something massive?


So who has used LLMs to create anything as impressive as Rob Pike?



I would never talk down on Rob Pike.

But I think in the aggregate ChatGPT has solved more problems, and created more things, than Rob Pike (the man) did -- and also created more problems, with a significantly worse ratio for sure, but the point still stands. I still think it counts as "impressive".

Am I wrong on this? Or if this "doesn't count", why?

I can understand visceral and ethically important reactions to any suggestions of AI superiority over people, but I don't understand the denialism I see around this.

I honestly think the only reason you don't see this in the news all the time is because when someone uses ChatGPT to help them synthesize code, do engineering, design systems, get insights, or dare I say invent things -- they're not gonna say "don't thank (read: pay) me, thank ChatGPT!".

Anyone that honest/noble/realistic will find that someone else is happy to take the credit (read: money) instead, while the person crediting the AI won't be able to pay for their internet/ChatGPT bill. You won't hear from them, and conclude that LLMs don't produce anything as impressive as Rob Pike. It's just Darwinian.


The signal to noise ratio cannot be ignored. If I ask for a list of my friends phone numbers, and a significant other can provide half of them, and a computer can provide every one of them by listing every possible phone number, the computer's output is not something we should value for being more complete.


You wish. AI has no shortage of people like you trying so hard to give it credit for anything. I mean, just ask yourself. You had to try so hard that you, in your other comment, ended up hallucinating achievements of a degree that Rob Pike can only dream of but yet so vague that you can't describe them in any detail whatsoever.

> But I think in the aggregate ChatGPT has solved more problems, and created more things, than Rob Pike did

Other people see that kind of statement for what it is and don't buy any of it.




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