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No one likes the current design of subway systems. Therefore it won't see any expansions. The new expansions currently in play are real deep and real expensive. Again no one likes this new design either. No one likes the system of elevated rails. No one likes the bussing system.

What do people like? The expanding ferry line. The trolley on 3rd Ave Brooklyn. The air train. Cheaper fares.

Until there is some new tech that can get people excited about public transportation again, we won't be seeing any new investments.



Do people actually like the air train? I've never heard anyone say they'd prefer it over a subway that actually went to JFK. (and the increased cost/inability to use OMNY is ridiculous)


I find it very silly that tourists need to buy a MetroCard just for the transfer from the AirTrain to the metro, and then never need it again afterwards because of OMNY.


Agreed . That is ridiculous. I encountered the same experience .


Definitely, my wife went to JFK this week and instead of taking the A to Howard Beach she went to Atlantic for the LIRR to Jamaica and AirTram from there.

Faster and nicer.


Much agreed. I far prefer LIRR+Airtrain rather than taking the noisy and rickety subway.

Note the helpful Cityticket discount fare on LIRR as well!


any form of new transportation is a welcome experience




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