Sorry I'm out of the loop: why does "we have retail clients" mean "aws is a no go".

Retailers like wal mart supposedly demand their partners and suppliers to not use AWS.

Can confirm, did large projects at huge retailer, AWS was cursed, anything but AWS, spoken by execs through clenched teeth.

and to clarify on the above reply, it's widely suspected that Amazon snoop at data hosted on AWS, so they can make/sell competing products that are selling well based on what they learn from snooping.

So basically any business that makes or sells anything that Amazon may possibly make or sell in the future doesn't want to touch AWS.

That cannot possibly be true.

Do you imagine the fallout if it came out ( and how would in not, thousands of people would have passed through, one disgruntled employee is enough) ? AWS would lose most customers within a few years, Amazon.com as well ( disgusted buyers and sellers), there'd be lawsuit everywhere. I really don't think anyone in Amazon is stupid enough to risk a trillion dollar business for some potential competitive advantage on whatever sold on Amazon.com

Amazon has regularly launched products with their "Amazon Basics" brand, copying well-selling 3rd-party products sold on Amazon.com, always a few bucks cheaper. [1]

What makes you think it would be different with AWS?

[1] https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-scooped-up-data-from-its...

Are you really comparing making knockoff products with stealing their consumers data?

I doubt that actually looking into EC2 instances (which AWS would never do, "pinkie promise") would even be necessary. Metadata about the company's deployed infrastructure would totally suffice to derive enough business insights to launch a "knockoff product", as you call it.

The fallout is already in effect, if you read the above comments.

Pretty much this: https://twitter.com/Shopify/status/1367929509354299392

Can also confirm, a percentage of our customers see Amazon as a fighting word. They conflate the store with AWS. The store is their competitor.

Ah I get it, because of a different part of Amazon being a competitor. Interesting!

Were you affected? Wondering if your DNS is setup separately then you wouldn't be affected by whatever mishap that happened to Oracle's own DNS.

We were not, oddly enough. I can't speak in too much detail since I'm not on that team but our region was included so we may just have been lucky

can you tell me what issue you were facing with Azure?