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I don't mind gpg. I still use it a lot especially with the private keys on openpgp smartcards or yubikeys.

It's a pretty great ecosystem, most hardware smartcards are surrounded by a lot of black magic and secret handshakes and stuff like pkcs#11 and opensc/openct are much much harder to configure.

I use it for many things but not for email. Encrypted backups, password manager, ssh keys. For some there are other hardware options like fido2 but not for all usecases and not the same one for each usecase. So I expect to be using gpg for a long time to come.


Well there's also a c) - Whatever they get away with now they will have in pocket, and whatever penance they will have to do with a future administration will take years and years of legal back and forth to actually pan out, by which time it will be watered down so any fine will dwarf the profits made during this period.

Also, if they manage to reach "too big to fail" status by that point, whatever punishment will be nothing more than a slap on the wrist.


It's different because it's all about that now. The Clintons had their scandals, the "pay to play" lists etc. We all know they are in bed with the moneymen. But it didn't define their administration, and they were pretty hush-hush about it.

Trump on the other hand is completely open about this. He even brags about making money from deals, something that was previously considered a huge conflict of interest. He appoints people based on loyalty alone, not knowledge or experience. He bullies countries into compliance with mafia tactics ("appease me or else..." tariffs or even war like venezuela and greenland). It's a huge moral shift where that is no longer unthinkable. The US used to have values. It was a country that was at least trying to be the good guy.

Also, the constitution used to be holy. Now Trump is flaunting the 1st amendment on a daily basis (limiting LGBTIQ+ speech, establishing America as a "christian country" which is explicitly forbidden). I think all these developments are very concerning. I don't live in America but considering it is still a big world power it does worry me.


I love the spirit of your comments but IMO it is misguided

The US used to have values. It was a country that was at least trying to be the good guy.

This really is all wrong. One might think this based on pitches from different times but all Empires are evil by their definition and America has always been that, always


> This really is all wrong. One might think this based on pitches from different times but all Empires are evil by their definition and America has always been that, always

Again, the problem with this train of logic is you inevitable condemn everyone and everything as evil, at which point the word completely loses its meaning. Evil is only useful as a term if there are actually things that are not evil.

America has certainly done immoral, unethical and frankly evil things. It's also done moral, beautiful and even heroic things. It's a big complicated entity made up of literally millions of people and trying to summarize it as "good or evil" is pointless.

The reason this nuance matters is that we want, need to encourage doing good and the first step to doing that is to actually be able to distinguish between good and evil.


> It's also done moral, beautiful and even heroic things

give me a list of these “beautiful and heroic things” - very interested to read them


Ok, I'll play:

> We estimate that over the past two decades, USAID-funded programmes have helped prevent more than 91 million deaths globally, including 30 million deaths among children.

How about that? Or are you going to come up with some excuse that somewhere, somehow, an american also benefitted from saving all these lives and therefor it doesn't count?

[1] https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6...


I mean you are making this too easy that I can copy&paste above the fold..:

The core reason for creating USAID in 1961, under President John F. Kennedy, was to consolidate and revamp U.S. foreign aid into a single, more strategic agency to counter Soviet influence during the Cold War, promote democracy and free-market principles, and fulfill America's moral and economic role as a global leader. It aimed to separate economic aid from military assistance and make it more effective in fostering development, spreading U.S. values, and creating stable partners, distinct from the bureaucracy of the State Department.


How can you copy and paste from wikipedia but not even read the entire comment you're replying to?

didn’t copy and paste from wikipedia (though I can if needed) - wasn’t expecting to read USAID as american spreading goodness out of our pure hearts but here we are, have read crazier things than that for sure

At no point did the phrase "goodness of pure hearts" appear in my text.

That doesn't make usaid saving 90 million lives less great.

Also, remember how america is not a single person? It is in fact millions of people? You want to tell me with a straight face that every single employee of usaid is working entirely out of some kind of dispassionate desire to increase american foreign influence?

I don't get why it is so difficult to understand that countries (and people) and do both good and bad things over their existences and if we actually want a better future we should encourage the good things being done which means we need to actually be able to recongize good vs bad.


1 in 5 children are hungry in America right this moment, we don’t do a single fucking thing because we are “good” - can’t believe there are people (you are probably in majority) that still believe this nonsense. wild wild stuff

My point, which you keep missing, is that nobody is actually "good" or "bad". They do good and bad actions.

America actually does quite a bit for hungry children, both within and without her borders. Is it enough? Perhaps not, but that doesn't somehow make what they do bad.


just do a simple thing - ballpark how many lives of innocent people has America taken, lets just say since WWII. then lets see after you ballpark this whether you still think we are (or ever were) “good guys”

Sure: define innocent.

The major difference is the disappearance of shame.

However, the greatest enablement was the overblown cynicism large swaths of the american elites had towards the national proclaimed values. When you think everything is cynical even when it is not then the next step is to have governments that are completely cynical.


so it is shame that is important? As long as we are shameful of corruption etc it is good but once the shame goes away we gonna draw the line?

yes, when politicians aren't ashamed of corruption, corruption has no self imposed limits

No, what they said is we had less corruption when people were ashamed of it.

This should be political slogan for 2026/28 election - “Bringing Shame Back to Politics”

It's a shame. Groq was really great. Nvidia is stifling innovation here. I don't understand how market regulators allow this.

The FTC requested significant increases for technology and economic analysis for FY2025 ($535M), but was given a static budget with plans to cut by 11%. FTC chair Ferguson reduced staff from 1,315 to 1,221 and aims to reach around 1,100 through attrition to align with lower budgets.

Oversight hearing is worth a listen to get a better idea on how the current administation is harming regulators: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NZxkvYaVuk


what exactly they are doing if they don't look at the acquisitions of the biggest company?

I know no one wants to hear this, but this “acquisition “ is nothing of the kind. It’s just Nvidia hiring the four or five guys they need without having to take on the rest of groq. Which, as it turns out, is worthless without those four or five guys.

This is what happens when companies figure out they don’t have to buy out other companies. They just need to pay off shareholders for the right to hire key employees. Which is convenient, since the key four or five guys are usually pretty big shareholders.

It’s no longer necessary to monopolize a market. You can monopolize intellectual capital by just paying ungodly sums of money. The rest will take care of itself.


Maybe it was not the right term, "acquisition". But really the end-result is the same.

Very simple - look for who has a stake in Groq currently:

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/24/nvidia-buying-ai-chip-startu...

"Davis, whose firm has invested more than half a billion dollars in Groq since the company was founded in 2016, said the deal came together quickly. Groq raised $750 million at a valuation of about $6.9 billion three months ago. Investors in the round included Blackrock and Neuberger Berman, as well as Samsung, Cisco , Altimeter and 1789 Capital, where Donald Trump Jr. is a partner."

POP QUIZ - Which minority partner is the key here?


> It's a shame. Groq was really great. Nvidia is stifling innovation here.

I don't share your view. Groq continues to exist. Nvidia did not take any or their hardware, so the same Groq you access on OpenRouter will exist tomorrow or one year from now. If anything, they'll significantly increase their presence, since they just got $20 billion in cash.

As for Nvidia stifling innovation: one can argue that they do the opposite. They hired key personnel from Groq (including their founder and CEO, Jonnathan Ross). These people agreed to the move, presumably for the money, but most likely also because they think they can deliver even more if they have access to Nvidia's resources. So, in terms of overall innovation, it will most likely go up.

But you can say that they stifle independent innovation. Maybe, but the case for that is not that open and shut as it might seem. They entered a non-exclusive licensing agreement with Groq. Which means Groq can provide their "secret sauce" to other interested entities, maybe Apple, maybe Intel or AMD, maybe OpenAI, maybe Oracle. The number of companies who could be interested in their tech is quite high.

Or simply, Groq, with the many billions in unencumbered cash they just received will decide to go for version 2.0 of their tech, or they can significantly expand the GroqCloud. Their valuation just went from $6.5B to significantly higher than $20B. They can pursue an IPO, or they can issue debt. There are countless possibilities for Groq now.


The people now working for Nvidia will keep innovating but now with monopolistic pricing.

The $20B will be paid out to investors. Maybe GroqCloud will keep $1B to keep the lights on for a few years.


> The $20B will be paid out to investors.

You are stating this as a fact. Do you have any links?

Otherwise, the simplest interpretation is that the $20B is paid by Nvidia to Groq, the company, not the investors. I don't even think it is legally possible for Nvidia to do a deal with Groq's investors directly, rather than with Groq.


Right; Nvidia pays Groq then Groq pays the investors. Groq has no better use for the money.

Is that your opinion, or you have some more solid source to state that?

Because your argument sounds something like this: Nvidia did something (a fact), and I am sure that after that Groq will do something else (not a fact), therefore Nvidia is such a bad player. Do you consider this to be a correct argument?



The Axios article is reporting on a scoop, quite breathlessly. But read it more carefully.

All the employees who jumped ship (90%) had to be bought out, otherwise they would have a conflict of interests. The schedule is quite irrelevant. The remaining 10% also got cash. But the article is quite mum on the institutional investors. They can choose to cash out, or to keep the business running. Now that they have a lot of cash, they can choose to expand GroqCloud, or they can choose to pretend to keep the business running, just for show, to not trigger regulatory scrutiny. To claim it’s the second means you are quite confident the regulators in this administration will do their job. And prosecute Nvidia. Are you really saying that?


> I don't share your view. Groq continues to exist. Nvidia did not take any or their hardware, so the same Groq you access on OpenRouter will exist tomorrow or one year from now. If anything, they'll significantly increase their presence, since they just got $20 billion in cash.

The linked article expects differently:

> Nvidia’s buying them with their insanely inflated war chest. They don’t want a chunk taken out of their market share. They can’t afford to take that chance. So it’s like they’re just saying: “Shut up, take the $20 billion, walk away from this project.”

How much this is true I can't really verify myself but it certainly sounds concerning.

> But you can say that they stifle independent innovation.

But this is exactly what a market watchdog is supposed to prevent. A market with one player (or two) is no market. And Groq was going in a decidedly different direction than Nvidia.

The linked article echoes my worries in other ways as well e.g. worker displacement, explosion of energy usage. I often equate it with the dotcom era, I worked on this thinking we made the world better. But the endgame, with the Google, Meta, pervasive tracking etc is much more dystopian. Especially considering the societal effects. Enshittification, corporate rule, polarisation due to social medias promoting "engagement" and thus conflicting content that get people riled up.

I don't want the same to happen with AI here and it feels like they are already aligning the stars to make exactly that happen.


What market regulators?

There’s regulators??

what was great about Groq? The token speed? Last I checked they aggressively throttled how many requests you could make.

Funny how everyone shits on Nvidia's monopoly when we've got Google walking around after winning a monumental antitrust case regarding their Android/Chrome/Google information monopoly.

How do the market regulators allow that?


My first grade teacher used to claim that two wrongs didn't make a right.

> How do the market regulators allow that?

Same way I reckon. Both are bad.

> Funny how everyone shits on Nvidia's monopoly when we've got Google walking around after winning a monumental antitrust case regarding their Android/Chrome/Google information monopoly.

... are you implying people around here don't give google flak for monopolistic business practices? That doesn't square with my experience, here.


Market regulators are working hard to ensure regulatory capture for the big players.

One wrong doesn't make another wrong right.

Yeah the lockdowns have really damaged my mental health. And the mask mandates even more so due to ancient trauma (where I nearly suffocated and have very bad associations with breathing that feels obstructed). But that's a very personal reason that I understand couldn't be accommodated for back in those days.

I don't know if it was worth it or necessary but tbh I just try to forget the whole phase ever happened. For me it was a few lost life years and I'm still trying to get back to where I was mentally.

I do feel those things were really overlooked back in the day. But I'm also glad I'm not the one making such decisions which can't be easy.

The only thing I have an outspoken opinion about were the curfews we had here. Meaning the available time for things like shopping was more compressed and thus the shops were a lot busier than normal which was super counterproductive. And it didn't stop partygoers because they simply slept over.


Yeah Apple was on a good track for a while with things like OpenCL. But completely reversed course :(

Well, the industry rejected OpenCL in favor of proprietary CUDA. Oh well...

The poor industry, self-selecting for high-quality SDKs that macOS won't sign. Wouldn't they be upset if Apple ends up hurting themselves?

As rare as Apple is to admit it, there is this mercurial thing called "competition" that haunts the free market. OpenCL would have had an excellent chance if Apple took it as seriously as Nvidia took CUDA. But they didn't, it was thrown over the fence and expected that everyone else would do the work. While Nvidia was shipping Linux and BSD-native CUDA drivers, Apple was just distributing loose specs and begging the OpenCL working group to stop rewarding their competitor. Not for a lack of funding or motivation, Apple lost because they were butthurt.

OpenCL was DOA the moment Apple stopped treating Nvidia as a proper threat. Everyone else in the industry supported CUDA and was fine with it.


Making 3D worlds like that is impressive. I used to build some VR worlds (hobby) and content generation is a huge time sink. I wonder if this tech will become accessible for that soon.

This is all going to become super accessible to everyone. And it'll become fast and eventually free.

Everyone will be able to flex their muscles as a creative. Everyone will be able to become an artist (expressing themselves though their unique lens) without putting points into a mechanical skill that is dimensionally orthogonal to idea expression and communication.

This is the "bicycle of the mind" that Steve Jobs talked about 40 some years ago. We've all had keyboards with which to express ourselves and communicate, but soon everyone will be able to visually articulate themselves and their thoughts. It's going to be so uplifting for society.

In fifty years we'll even be able to render our direct thoughts and mold them like clay. Share them directly with one another. Co-think.


Isn't that what groq did basically?

Though I'm sure they will shut their shop asap now that Nvidia basically bought them.


Nvidia didn’t buy Groq.

They did (unless you're one of the drafters of the Hart-Scott-Rodino Act, in which case, weirdly, they didn't)

Given that it's under scrutiny for regulatory bypass, it's not a purchase and is being reviewed as circumventing those very rules. Might not even happen.

I know, I'm joking: Trump likes Nvidia, but maybe he'll bump the Chinese tax to 30% to approve this deal? In a way I hope he pulls something like that, to punish Huang for his boot shining manipulations.

#iwantRAM


"basically"

Wow so they have a desktop version again after many many years. That's huge.

Is that the recent change about not allowing access to the messages older than 10.000?

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